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It's not being canceled, op has no merit.
Where's your proof that it's not being canceled? Nearly everybody that wanted one has already purchased one (and likely ditched it for a great loss). Rocket, for your own benefit, go ride the competitors ADVs. You'll find yourself in total agreement with me.
 
@Panamfan123, Last week I stopped by a BMW dealer to check out the bikes. I'm 68 btw. Bikes felt very top heavy compared to my Pan-Am. For that very reason alone I hope your source is mistaken, but I don't find it hard to believe compared to others on this forum.

Harley Pan America, worst launch in history of motorcycling.
 
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I have both a 22 PAS and a 23 R1250GSA, and you are absolutely correct. The GSA feels more top heavy at low speeds because it is. Once under motion, the GS/GSA masks it's weight far better than the PA. The PA could have been a gamechanger and class leader for HD but they butchered it and waited too long to make things right.
 
Where's your proof that it's not being canceled? Nearly everybody that wanted one has already purchased one (and likely ditched it for a great loss). Rocket, for your own benefit, go ride the competitors ADVs. You'll find yourself in total agreement with me.
I’ve owned BMW and Tiger and didn’t like either do to lack of feel and style. I’ve been riding since 1986 and have had 27 new bikes of all different mix and models and the pan America is by far my favorite of them all. Some people will swear by the DTC automatic transmission Bike, but those people aren’t real motorcyclists just like E bikers aren’t real bicyclists. No other ADV Bike will hit the jumps like a hand America and then rock 150 miles an hour on the highway back to back. The other ADV bikes, as far as I’m concerned, or for old people who like to tour on the road
 
Production was not "moved" over seas, the Rev Max platform has been built in Thailand since it was introduced, in addition to units being made in the US. The change for 2025 was to simply pause production in the US and have all production come from Thailand.
So stoked my 2024 was made in York PA. Get to bat down the na sayers in the clubs. Saweet!
 
I was wondering about those videos also. Who Makes them what are there purpose?
The narrator sounds AI. The Pan Am's look to be too outrageous to kinda fictious IMO.

Certainly the Pan Am's I saw in the videos in 2024 look nothing like what Harley put out in 2025.
 
I had posted earlier wondering about test rides for the ST. Very few out there but I finally got to ride one last week, first day on the floor - bought it. There was another one that sold next day.
My review disappeared?? but itchyboots post is accurate for what I also experienced. ARH is stock, however. His post is worth the read - thanks, ODGreenPA: https://www.panamericaforums.com/threads/pan-america-st-test-ride.2337/post-20762
The windshield is non adjustable and my ONLY complaint. Already received my replacement so absolutely no regrets.

I traded a '24 PAS in and as I stated in my post, the ST nailed a few points I had wished for my '24. I am short, knocking on 69 and after at least 8 other bikes (losing count - but Yamaha, Honda, mostly Harlys), the PA-ST is built for me.

And whoever Panamfam123 is, please ignore my post.
 
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I’ve owned BMW and Tiger and didn’t like either do to lack of feel and style. I’ve been riding since 1986 and have had 27 new bikes of all different mix and models and the pan America is by far my favorite of them all. Some people will swear by the DTC automatic transmission Bike, but those people aren’t real motorcyclists just like E bikers aren’t real bicyclists. No other ADV Bike will hit the jumps like a hand America and then rock 150 miles an hour on the highway back to back. The other ADV bikes, as far as I’m concerned, or for old people who like to tour on the road
The KTM 1290 Super Adventure R does offroad better than the Pan Am and has a higher top speed. You are not correct.
 
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KTM is going out of business.
It must be because they are a better company than HD
Both poorly run companies. The difference is, KTM didn't rely on taxpayer monies to bail them out. Without the U.S government, HD would have succumbed to the same fate decades ago. Also, KTM makes a superior adventure bike in all regards (when compared to the PA). They are also not going out of business as you incorrectly stated.
 
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Warning: The OP of this thread (PanAmFan123) constantly makes up whatever unsubstantiated negative news he can come up with. Ask him to prove anything he says .....it won't happen. His reason??? who knows!
I'm sure he is here only because he has undoubtedly been thrown off all the other forums.
He needs to get out of his mothers basement and get a life!
Please keep this kind of negative behavior off the forum. Glad the mods took appropriate action.
 
Decades ago was when all us 60 somethings were in our forties and fifties. Everybody was on a Softail, Springer, Road King or Harley Wanna-Be, remember those. Weekend biker hang outs were packed. Harley Dealerships were springing up all over the country resembling mini malls. the Brand was .....

WAIT, why am I wasting my time responding to this guy. Good post rrav8ter & Rocket
 
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