Has anyone had there 22PA shut down while riding like the kill switch was hit? I was riding the canyons and bike died without any cautions while in Mid turn like the kill switch h was hit. No check engine no cautions. Did not see if there was any DTC.
Ruckuss0711
Urgent help! Random shutdown in the twisties.
I Have this happen twice now. No warning, No turns, straight road on a bridge both times. Did not get an error code. Turn the switch off then on Bike started right back up.
If your bike suddenly dies when lent over, or not, it is fault. Seek rememedy of that from the manufactrer under warramty, it's not a common fault and neither should it be, it's a basic fault, which should be identified and corrected.
Dear All,
today all the issues came back again 😭
WTF Harley!!!!
After two months waiting and all the spares replaced my expectations were to have back a bike working as it should.... all gone! 😟
Alberto
CC @stefano.gigli.1962
today all the issues came back again 😭
WTF Harley!!!!
- Switching on the bike (the battery is new, replaced few days ago) the voltage was extremely low, the bike started resetting the dashboard...
- After starting in this way, the safe mode was activated
- After switching off the bike and switching it on again, the generic yellow triangle icon was on
- I started riding down and, few kilometres later, while in 5th gear at 80 km/h, the bike switched off... the yellow engine icon switched on
- When I restarted the bike, the generic error was still on
- I tried to open the diagnostics, got the "No Response to Diagnostic Request" even before getting the list of the errors split by categories
- The last 30 kilometres I got like the feeling the engine brake was slowing down the bike... something was going on but I can't tell for sure
After two months waiting and all the spares replaced my expectations were to have back a bike working as it should.... all gone! 😟
Alberto
CC @stefano.gigli.1962
Sounds like it time to ask for a new bike or all money spent on the bike back. Not sure if you have any legal avenues open to you but I’d find out. It’s obviously not fit for purpose.
Hi, I have 22 PAS - purchased July 7th 2022. Only 3200km on it. Had problems before I took it in for its first service, the revving at 4000rpm, not starting etc. The dealer rolled back software, seemed to work for a while, then it had black screen when turning it on a few times, enter PIN number screen came up a few times. Both solved by walking away, waiting then starting it again. Then ARH stopped working. Then had warning lights on quite regularly and when it rebooted the screen mid ride I told the dealer to take it back until sorted. I got it back a week later, new battery, everything checked updated, double checked - all working well. The next day, today - a saturday and its a beautiful sunny winter day - absolutely perfect for a ride......gear up and head off down the road and the engine dies. WTF. My question is - has anyone who is having problems - actually had them resolved 100%? Or is this going to be an ongoing unwinnable battle? thanks for any advice - feeling very very discouraged, disappointed and angry.
I had a blank screen problem which wasn't intermittent at around 150 miles. BCM replacement solved the problem with the bike at 3500 miles currently.
Same with the radiator hose replacement at 100 miles, though I've added thermal insulation which seems to be holding up ok. I'm skeptical this will hold up long term.
The sport case locking mechanism acted up during the last day of a recent road trip. Ultimately the locking cylinder (containing the tumblers/springs) pulled out of the bag completely. Fortunately, all the springs and most of the tumblers were retained due to the assembly grease...and once I got home was able to reinstall the cylinder and open the bag.
The TPMS widget has also disappeared during said trip.
At this point my major issues with keeping the bike running appear to be solved, but it continues to present niggly issues which continue to need addressing.
Too bad..the bike's a joy to ride.
Same with the radiator hose replacement at 100 miles, though I've added thermal insulation which seems to be holding up ok. I'm skeptical this will hold up long term.
The sport case locking mechanism acted up during the last day of a recent road trip. Ultimately the locking cylinder (containing the tumblers/springs) pulled out of the bag completely. Fortunately, all the springs and most of the tumblers were retained due to the assembly grease...and once I got home was able to reinstall the cylinder and open the bag.
The TPMS widget has also disappeared during said trip.
At this point my major issues with keeping the bike running appear to be solved, but it continues to present niggly issues which continue to need addressing.
Too bad..the bike's a joy to ride.
Hi @leroysch,
except the locking cylinder pulling out, I experienced all the other issues you reported.
About the radiator hose, my suggestion is to ask your mechanic (HD?), next time you will need to replace the coolant, to cut the pipe 1 or 1 1/2 centimetres so to keep it far away from the exhaust pipe. My original hose was melting, I asked HD to replace it and they adopted this solution, no matter the warm weather here, the hose seems to be OK after more than 3K kilometres (my PAS actually has more than 18K).
The TPMS widget disappears every time, while switching on the bike, the system cannot connect with the valves transmitters... unfortunately you need to add it back manually, on the positive side, it's not happening so often!
Cheers,
Alberto
except the locking cylinder pulling out, I experienced all the other issues you reported.
About the radiator hose, my suggestion is to ask your mechanic (HD?), next time you will need to replace the coolant, to cut the pipe 1 or 1 1/2 centimetres so to keep it far away from the exhaust pipe. My original hose was melting, I asked HD to replace it and they adopted this solution, no matter the warm weather here, the hose seems to be OK after more than 3K kilometres (my PAS actually has more than 18K).
The TPMS widget disappears every time, while switching on the bike, the system cannot connect with the valves transmitters... unfortunately you need to add it back manually, on the positive side, it's not happening so often!
Cheers,
Alberto
Not going to do anything at the moment...including taking it to the dealer...until the summer/fall road trip line up is completed. Bike is running fine at the moment and don't want any software updates or anything else "fixed" that could alter that.
I had a multitude of these issues the day of the accident (but weren't the cause). Yellow icon, frozen dash, also wouldn't rev over 4000 rpm. It died on me once. Of course is was in the middle of nowhere trying to get back when the ooops happened. Bike will be taking its issues to the grave with it..... 🤷🏼♂️
The other day I was riding back home from office. After more than 80 kilometres, uphill, suddenly, the PAS lost power. I looked at the dashboard and Limp Mode was on.
As usual, another multitude of warnings were on but the bike didn't switch off.
I stopped on the side, switched off the bike, waited for about 5 minutes and when I switched it on again, the yellow engine light was on but no errors at all on the diagnostics.
The engine light was still on the next day but then, in the evening, was gone.
No Comment!
As usual, another multitude of warnings were on but the bike didn't switch off.
I stopped on the side, switched off the bike, waited for about 5 minutes and when I switched it on again, the yellow engine light was on but no errors at all on the diagnostics.
The engine light was still on the next day but then, in the evening, was gone.
No Comment!
Hi Alberto,
my bike is now at the dealer for the 1.600 km check.
After the SW downgrade, made in july, I hade only minor issues (some yellow tringle, some switch-off of engine - but only at minimum RPMimmediately after the start).
I have some question for you: do you were in Sport Mode or in Road mode when the bike went in Limp Mode?
you say that you looked at the dashboard and Limp Mode was ON; Limp Mode is visible on the dashboard? there is an alarm? When in July mi bike went in Limp Mode I didn't see any specific alarm.
Thanks.
Stefano
my bike is now at the dealer for the 1.600 km check.
After the SW downgrade, made in july, I hade only minor issues (some yellow tringle, some switch-off of engine - but only at minimum RPMimmediately after the start).
I have some question for you: do you were in Sport Mode or in Road mode when the bike went in Limp Mode?
you say that you looked at the dashboard and Limp Mode was ON; Limp Mode is visible on the dashboard? there is an alarm? When in July mi bike went in Limp Mode I didn't see any specific alarm.
Thanks.
Stefano
Update since OP. Mike bike went several months now and has done the no reason random stall out about a total of 7 times now. Three times in one trip from my OP and four more throughout the last three months. The most recent ones were in my residential neighborhood under 25 MPH. After turning onto a street. Common factors are the bike in turn or has just turned and clutch pulled in. It almost seems like the idle just never catches itself from dropping after pulling the clutch in and then dies. Still no codes. Screen remains on and no other signs of faults or failures. I now have an apt at the dealer but even the service manager said that he hasn't heard of that issue yet and they might have a hard time getting it to replicate. At least I am on my way to having it documented . This is a dangerous gripe. Who knows when this might happen and cause me a wreck.
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