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Should we start a full on campaign to get HD to do something about the navigation?

I LOVE my bike but the navigation is horrid!

I’ve tried and sometimes it works ok but most of the time I end up using Scenic or my Gaia App. This system is just not good for adventure bikes. This bike would be the ultimate if they’d give the option of a Garmin based display or just go with Carplay/Google equivalent?

I’d pay extra if I could replace the current system with one that just has CarPlay and I could just use my phone and GPS apps.

Why they try to come up with their own when there are other systems that have perfected mapping I’ll never know. Top manufacturers try but just are outside their swim lane.

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Should we start a full on campaign to get HD to do something about the navigation?

I LOVE my bike but the navigation is horrid!

I’ve tried and sometimes it works ok but most of the time I end up using Scenic or my Gaia App. This system is just not good for adventure bikes. This bike would be the ultimate if they’d give the option of a Garmin based display or just go with Carplay/Google equivalent?

I’d pay extra if I could replace the current system with one that just has CarPlay and I could just use my phone and GPS apps.

Why they try to come up with their own when there are other systems that have perfected mapping I’ll never know. Top manufacturers try but just are outside their swim lane.

Anyone?
Harley has a Zumo 590 kit on their website and of course not compatible with the PA Special 😒
 

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Harley has a Zumo 590 kit on their website and of course not compatible with the PA Special 😒
I have the Zumo 595 LM and it’s powered off the USB-C outlet. I prefer using the Garmin GPS unit since I can move it between different bikes and my 4-wheeled rigs. It has dozens of saved routes I’ve ridden over the years, Plus it doesn’t rely on a cell signal or the reduced accuracy of the phone GPS. Personal preference.
 

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Hey drifter, yep understood! Referring to the original thread, HD could combine their TFT Display and gauges into a Zumo combo as a replacement for the factory display and HD App/GPS which just doesn’t live up to the adventure theme. You’re very correct, GPS via Garmin or other option is the way to go. I also have my external powered via the USB-C, just want them to do better than what they offered as factory built in system! Thank you for the reply!
 

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Agreed. I’ve yet to have a bike with a good factory nav system. One might exist, just not on the bikes I’ve had. They all seem to have their proprietary quirks. The PA nav system is notably bad since it’s not built-in with GPS and maps. Epic fail by HD for an adventure bike. Inexcusable. I knew that going into the purchase, but I’m sure there are many who were unaware of this when buying.
 

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BMW uses the same type of app for their bikes with TFT displays. There has to be a reason why they don't just put Apple CarPlay or Android Auto in the system since they rely on cell phones. Perhaps it's simply money.
 

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Saw this thread and I think you all will be disappointed that there will never be an update to Android Auto or CarPlay for the bike. In order to do so, there is a requirement for a separate display for speed, fault icons and odometer. Apple and Google will not allow that data to go through their software for obvious legal reasons. Look at the Africa Twin and see the ugly little LCD display they have tacked on to the main unit to display this data.
 

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Or, you just section the display so the required items are in a border at the top or bottom of the display like my Jeep does, no biggie. An alternate theory I've heard is Apple requires Siri functionality at all times, which is difficult if you rely on headsets as the only mic/speakers.
 

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Saw this thread and I think you all will be disappointed that there will never be an update to Android Auto or CarPlay for the bike. In order to do so, there is a requirement for a separate display for speed, fault icons and odometer. Apple and Google will not allow that data to go through their software for obvious legal reasons. Look at the Africa Twin and see the ugly little LCD display they have tacked on to the main unit to display this data.
Interesting, thank you for the info!

I’ve looked around and even thought about the portable displays that are just for CarPlay or Android auto but, that’s just another mount, another thing to power up, another connection etc. I have settled on my phone and GPS app for backcountry and Harley TFT Navigation for getting there and back. Seems to be working out and putting on some good miles!

Taking 3 weeks and going on an adventure trip up through Canada and around the Great Lakes so, we’ll see how it goes! LOL
 

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So, it seems Honda is able to get Carplay on the Africa Twin without built in speakers/mic. It looks like you can only use Carplay when you've got a headset active, which seems like a reasonable compromise. Time to start badgering Harley.
 

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I agree that it’s a bit stupid to rely on the grid with a bike that’s meant for off grid riding. It’s a great adv bike but Harley definitely came up short on a few things. I run a Zumo XT in a Touratech powered locking mount. I also added the Harley accessory lights. I tapped into the harness for the aux lights to power the GPS. It’s powered when the bike is on and there is no danger of running the battery down by leaving the leaving the GPS in the mount for extended periods with the bike not running.
 

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Hey folks ,
I quit to do anything with the HD Display and I use the tomtom powered by the bike.
Even the communication thing with Sena. I don't give up a lot of time for getting it running, more or less.
At this mather is the software from HD not flexible enough for others equipment.
So I stay with single solutions.
Good luck with connecting the bike.
 
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