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Well, I have about 1300 miles on the Pan Am and about 45 days ago, I was getting on the highway, starting to merge and it immediately went in to limp mode. I was getting in to 70-75 MPH traffic. Luckily, I caught a sense of the tone on acceleration and stayed right and was able to get on the shoulder pretty quickly. Secondarily, it was a toll road and an NTTA truck was right there and kicked his lights on as soon as I hit the hazards and pulled in behind me (This could have been catastrophic.). I left the bike off for a few minutes and it fired back up fine, I finished my trip to a dealer event (not my dealer and asked them to take a look. They didn't put much effort in to it, but explained the codes they saw and none correlated to any issues similar to mine. Oddly, it did it to me a second time the same day, but on surface streets and not accelerating. The bike Revved up and then went to limp mode, giving throttle was almost like it was starving for fuel.

Aside from the event, I dropped the bike at the dealer the beginning of April and they said they they could not replicate it. They rode it 60+ miles, they put it on a dyno, they did this and that, etc... I went in to pick it up Saturday and they pulled it out front and left it running, low and behold, I am signing the work order and I hear my bike revving. I walked out, to everyone staring at my bike revving itself to 4000 RPM, ran back in the service doors and told them the issue was happening right now. The Service Manager came out and the screen was flickering a 0 MPH, but nothing else. He shuts it down and they pulled 2 new codes they did not have prior. I see the Tech walking around with the book, baffled. They called MoCo and nothing. They did a new work order and put it back in the service bay.

I read a few posts about Limp Mode, but they did not seem to be as intermittent, they all seem to be related to hard acceleration. Does anyone else have similar issue with the Limp Mode and Revving while idling? I am perplexed, this definitely feels like it could be a common issues and in my mind, should be a recall if it is do to the potential cause of getting hit.

Open to thoughts, comments or like stories and what your results were.
 

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Well, I have about 1300 miles on the Pan Am and about 45 days ago, I was getting on the highway, starting to merge and it immediately went in to limp mode. I was getting in to 70-75 MPH traffic. Luckily, I caught a sense of the tone on acceleration and stayed right and was able to get on the shoulder pretty quickly. Secondarily, it was a toll road and an NTTA truck was right there and kicked his lights on as soon as I hit the hazards and pulled in behind me (This could have been catastrophic.). I left the bike off for a few minutes and it fired back up fine, I finished my trip to a dealer event (not my dealer and asked them to take a look. They didn't put much effort in to it, but explained the codes they saw and none correlated to any issues similar to mine. Oddly, it did it to me a second time the same day, but on surface streets and not accelerating. The bike Revved up and then went to limp mode, giving throttle was almost like it was starving for fuel.

Aside from the event, I dropped the bike at the dealer the beginning of April and they said they they could not replicate it. They rode it 60+ miles, they put it on a dyno, they did this and that, etc... I went in to pick it up Saturday and they pulled it out front and left it running, low and behold, I am signing the work order and I hear my bike revving. I walked out, to everyone staring at my bike revving itself to 4000 RPM, ran back in the service doors and told them the issue was happening right now. The Service Manager came out and the screen was flickering a 0 MPH, but nothing else. He shuts it down and they pulled 2 new codes they did not have prior. I see the Tech walking around with the book, baffled. They called MoCo and nothing. They did a new work order and put it back in the service bay.

I read a few posts about Limp Mode, but they did not seem to be as intermittent, they all seem to be related to hard acceleration. Does anyone else have similar issue with the Limp Mode and Revving while idling? I am perplexed, this definitely feels like it could be a common issues and in my mind, should be a recall if it is do to the potential cause of getting hit.

Open to thoughts, comments or like stories and what your results were.
Out of curiosity, what makes you suspect this could be a common issue?
 

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It happens to me too... all latest software updates, most of the time is not happening but, randomly, it does.

The bike is now at the HD garage here in Cyprus. I've been asked to leave it there for the whole week... I'm looking forward to the outcome.

Sad to say but, you're not alone and my bike has 15K kilometres on it.
 

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Out of curiosity, what makes you suspect this could be a common issue?
Just the number of results on posts and searches I found related to Limp Mode with hard acceleration. The revving could be related and be a completely isolated issue, but the fact that it threw codes unknown to the tech, it is something that has a code for it. That leads me to believe it is a combination problem. My other thought is that many of the posts related to Limp Mode, the end result is that the rider waits for a few minutes, starts it up and moves on because it recovers. If this is happening and people are not taking the bike in, this may seem isolated, but could be that people are too passive about a potentially serious issue that could get someone hurt.
 

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It happens to me too... all latest software updates, most of the time is not happening but, randomly, it does.

The bike is now at the HD garage here in Cyprus. I've been asked to leave it there for the whole week... I'm looking forward to the outcome.

Sad to say but, you're not alone and my bike has 15K kilometres on it.
I'll be interested to see what your dealer says.
 

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The strategy is simple @RonB, no matter what, the errors were popping up every day even after they cleaned them up the day before, for this reason, they decided to replace the controls where the starter is and see if this is enough to let the system stop recording new errors.
I think that if this is not enough, next step is going to be the replacement of the BCM.
 

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The strategy is simple @RonB, no matter what, the errors were popping up every day even after they cleaned them up the day before, for this reason, they decided to replace the controls where the starter is and see if this is enough to let the system stop recording new errors.
I think that if this is not enough, next step is going to be the replacement of the BCM.
Alberto, Just checking in to see if this has resolved your issue.
 

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Alberto, Just checking in to see if this has resolved your issue.
GM @RonB,

thank you for asking, but no, the local dealer is still waiting for the spares, on the 4th of July it will be one month of my PanAm being with them at the garage.
This is what happens when you live on an island and spares are backordered :-(

I'll update you when done. In the meantime, we're also trying to solve the issue with the radiator hose being too close to the exhaust pipe. Let's see if, at least, that issue will be sorted out so to forget about it over the summer.

Cheers,
Alberto
 

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The dealership called me today and said that HD is testing a new SW release that should fix the bug of the Limp Mode and revving.
But the new SW has not yet been completely tested, so it isn't releasable..... and the bike is not sure with the bug.
So I have to wait.......
 

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The dealership called me today and said that HD is testing a new SW release that should fix the bug of the Limp Mode and revving.
But the new SW has not yet been completely tested, so it isn't releasable..... and the bike is not sure with the bug.
So I have to wait.......
Dear Stefano,

don't expect too much from HD software updates, they told me several times they were going to fix the issue with the bike switching off randomly and they never did.

Anyway, I wish you good luck with that, maybe you'll be kissed by Lady Luck ;)

Cheers,
Alberto
 

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Thanks Alberto,
it's strange that HD doesnt give me back the bike because the problem could be dangerous.
After the SW update, they will be obliged to give me back the bike.......
I am thinking of opening a legal dispute to return the bike and get a refund.......
Cheers
Stefano
 

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Dear Stefano,

actually even my wife was suggesting me a similar approach but, it's a shame.

The bike looks great and has remarkable technical solutions which are making it unique. Not to mention that is a new design which is introducing in the adventure bikes segment something completely different from the usual bikes most of the riders are going for.

About being dangerous riding the bike having such these issues, I agree, if you are in traffic and suddenly the bike loses power or, like in my case, switches off, this may bring you in extremely dangerous situations.

When I've been told about the spare parts taking so long to come over, they also recommended to leave the bike at their premises to avoid further issues.

No matter what, I want to be positive and hope, one day, the bike will be just fine.

Alberto
 
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