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Hey all!

Creating account here for PA specific stuff (on other adv forum under same name). Looking for more people to ride with, share tracks, and just generally have other PA folk to commiserate with :D .

I have a two other ADV bikes 1250 GSA and a Norden 901, so it's been an interesting journey comparing the different bikes in the stable and seeing how the new kid (the PAS) shakes out.

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Welcome. Will keep an eye out on your comparisons between the bikes!
 
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It won’t be a fair shake with the middleweight but the GSA one is interesting. That said I really really wish that HD woulda outfitted with with a 21/18 combo
Hmmm. I'm leaning towards Mosko Moto for the offset of the bags. I bought the HD TopCase but as Lone Rider nears its development cycle I think their top case will be top notch. I bought the HD softbags here off this forum and love them for now. airtight. Collapsible. Easy to use. So no complaints. I'm still new with the PAS and am shocked how easy it is to handle at 550 pounds since I've been riding an 850 pound bagger
 

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Hmmm. I'm leaning towards Mosko Moto for the offset of the bags. I bought the HD TopCase but as Lone Rider nears its development cycle I think their top case will be top notch. I bought the HD softbags here off this forum and love them for now. airtight. Collapsible. Easy to use. So no complaints. I'm still new with the PAS and am shocked how easy it is to handle at 550 pounds since I've been riding an 850 pound bagger
I prefer the Mosko Reckless 80L, that’s what I run. I used to have the rack mounted unit but went away from it, this one I find easier to switch between the bikes and is a narrower profile for me. Most I’ve ever carried with it has been tent/sleeping bag/mattress/camp chair/hammock and clothes plus firearms/ammo for moto camping with some shooting at the cove.

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My Norden is not running stock suspension (currently have WP XPLOR PRO) so that's going to be tricky, a buddy of mine still has a stocker that I rode so I have a frame of reference.

I will say this until I'm black and blue (hope HD is reading this forum). The biggest crime/problem with this bike imho is the wheel combo. I really wish it would have been 21/18, that would help it with getting over rougher terrain more easily imho.

Ok you asked for the differences:
  • The approach to the traction control is night and day compared to KTM/HUSKY
    • The PA offroad mode are very obvious, you can tell when they are trying to help you
    • The Norden you'll swear it's you even though it's busting its ass keeping you alive
    • The Rally/Explorer mode on KTM is a game changer with how you can customize it so it grows with you
  • The balance weight difference is noticeable
    • Norden has the low slung tanks which help with the balance of the bike along with being lighter
    • PA balances well but when it gets jostled you can tell that it's weight sits a little higher
    • The lighter feeling on the Norden gives you more breathing room (people say "confidence" but I like breathing room) on tackling rougher terrain.
  • Tourability, I'm mixed:
    • The fairing profile on the Norden makes the PA narrower up-top
    • The PA feels like a more solid tourer, but it's only a slight difference
    • Wind-wise the PA has a better windscreen so protection up top is good, I think buffeting to body might be a tie
    • Seat on Norden stock is firmer, the PA seat has a tendency to have me slide forward which is not my favorite
  • Motor, the PA wins hands down:
    • Much broader range of power
    • Motor is playful and is as comfortable being wound out as much as it does just chilling
    • I don't know how good it is on fuel economy but I feel like it's not great on the PA? I get like 200-21x a tank?

Hope that's a decent overview, ask away if you want something more specific. I will say this as far as competitors go. I know people say that the BMW GS was what HD benchmarked after but I think it's BS because this bike is wayyyy more similar to KTM's 1290 Super Adventure S . The tale of the tape and features are just too similar, I've owned the R model and rode an S so I would say that this is a 1290 S that has a motor that's easier to live with.
 
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