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yes, had same issue, so did a tech at my local Harley dealer. Cure, (so far) is to hit the starter button and release quickly. Don't hold the button down until it starts. I can't explain it, but it works. I've had no problems starting the bike in the last three weeks.
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View attachment 82 View attachment 82 I stopped for gas after leaving work, about 2.5 miles to the gas station. Shut off bike, fill tank with gas. Then go to start bike, the start button does nothing? Turn back off and on, still nothing! Then I check diagnostics page, I've got a bunch of ecm codes, that I can not clear? So I push bike away from pump, call my wife to bring the truck and trailer. After a few minutes I decided to try it one more time, what do you know, it started right up? Any one else having similar issues?
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Mine did the same thing wait about 20 minutes and it starts right up.
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Had the same thing happen yesterday. After seeing that they are all ECU codes, I unplugged my iPhone cord from the USB port and then it started up (no idea if that was the issue though). I rode the bike another 12 miles and all the codes changed to ending in H (historical), cleared them all, and then put another 20 miles on without any reoccurring fault codes.
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My bike did this twice, took it to dealer reflashed the BCM. Hopefully this fixed it.
Probably battery related as it did start when left for long enough for the battery voltage to recover. Manual says recharge battery every two weeks when not ridden daily. The trouble with keyless ignitions is that it's always searching for the key and that uses power.
Judicious use of the "transport mode" will help when the bike is idle, not just actually when being transported.
Judicious use of the "transport mode" will help when the bike is idle, not just actually when being transported.
For winter storage, I'd remove the battery altogether, bench charge the battery and store it away somewhere safe. Not so easy on the PA, due to the battery location, but still, not that hard. Alternative is just to remove the negative terminal on the battery, but again, if you're going in there - you might as well have the bastid out altogether.
Fair play to H-D. They have fitted a battery maintainer/charger connector; but the risk with those is that depending on the charger? you can also fook the battery by being on charge all the time which batteries don't like.
I connected mine up to my 6amp charger yesterday to check it works and recharged the battery to full - reading 14.5v no load. 🤟
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Do you have your bike back @Dennis Punt? Or is it still at the dealer?
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The low battery power is not what caused my problems. the bike lives on a battery tend when not being ridden. I have not had the problem since, the bike did go to the dealer for a new flash after the problem. I have read on a few sites that this is a known problem.
Just a note about the clearing of DTC codes. As and when your bike reaches the dealer, those stored codes will assist them in pin pointing where any fault stemmed from. If you want to help and help yourself, get kitted up with the correct equipment to connect to the bikes diagnostic port. I've done that for previous bikes for a few pounds and been able to establish what the codes relate to and delete/clear erroneous DTCs; once I'm fairly certain they are indeed erroneous and non-recurring.
I think the fact you can dial into these from the bike settings will cause more worry from owners than provide assitance. The code without any information on what it relates to is pretty useless by itself, Harley...
I will be ordering one of these - Harley Davidson/Buell OBD2 6 Pin Plug Adaptor Cable - Lonelec
And plugging that into a obd2 bluetooth adapter that I already own for a more educated approach to fault diagnosis.... WCPGW
P.S. Has anyone said it's probably the battery.
Dirtglide.🦆
I think the fact you can dial into these from the bike settings will cause more worry from owners than provide assitance. The code without any information on what it relates to is pretty useless by itself, Harley...
I will be ordering one of these - Harley Davidson/Buell OBD2 6 Pin Plug Adaptor Cable - Lonelec
And plugging that into a obd2 bluetooth adapter that I already own for a more educated approach to fault diagnosis.... WCPGW
P.S. Has anyone said it's probably the battery.
Dirtglide.🦆
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I have it back, they only had it overnight. The trouble codes were sent to Harley and Harley advised to re-flash the computer with the updates. So far no trouble.
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Hi DG Do you know whether I can use my gs 911 tool with an appropriate lead. I ask because it is advertised as being able to be used on a BMW / Harley.Just a note about the clearing of DTC codes. As and when your bike reaches the dealer, those stored codes will assist them in pin pointing where any fault stemmed from. If you want to help and help yourself, get kitted up with the correct equipment to connect to the bikes diagnostic port. I've done that for previous bikes for a few pounds and been able to establish what the codes relate to and delete/clear erroneous DTCs; once I'm fairly certain they are indeed erroneous and non-recurring.
I think the fact you can dial into these from the bike settings will cause more worry from owners than provide assitance. The code without any information on what it relates to is pretty useless by itself, Harley...
I will be ordering one of these - Harley Davidson/Buell OBD2 6 Pin Plug Adaptor Cable - Lonelec
And plugging that into a obd2 bluetooth adapter that I already own for a more educated approach to fault diagnosis.... WCPGW
P.S. Has anyone said it's probably the battery.
Dirtglide.🦆
Houston, we have a problem.....
The supplied diagnostic cable and connector is way too large. I'm going to have to go back to the supplier and see what they can do. The red plug is I'm almost certain the diagnostic connector for the bike. It's located in front of the DC heated clothing connectors and plugs into a blank holder to keep moisture and dirt out.
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The supplied diagnostic cable and connector is way too large. I'm going to have to go back to the supplier and see what they can do. The red plug is I'm almost certain the diagnostic connector for the bike. It's located in front of the DC heated clothing connectors and plugs into a blank holder to keep moisture and dirt out.
I don't have any experience of the tool you mention. Any generic OBD2 reader will work, as will any bluetooth adapter, this would be my choice as you can then access the Internet for more info on stored DTCs direct from your phone, tablet, laptop etc.
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